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USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 8:09 am
by gn303
I certainly do not want to interfere with US politics, but I feel that people should know what has (perhaps) not hit the headlines in the US...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euuSm-SaDM

Regards,

Guy

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 4:46 am
by Hemmers
WTF? Those aren't even headlines in Britain!

Usual US media alarmism (and over 6 years old). Go back to speculating on Kate's tragic brain tumour or which celebrity is going to croak next, nothing to see here.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:52 am
by Wynne G Oldman
Usual poor quality right wing American Christian propaganda masquerading as news.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:38 am
by nglitz
Wynne G Oldman wrote:Usual poor quality right wing American Christian propaganda masquerading as news.
Your bigotry is showing.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:19 am
by David Levene
I've only just watched that video and must agree with Hemmers.

That is several years old, and I didn't even recognise what they were describing then.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 12:52 pm
by slofyr
nglitz wrote:
Wynne G Oldman wrote:Usual poor quality right wing American Christian propaganda masquerading as news.
Your bigotry is showing.
But he described it accurately.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 1:40 pm
by Rover
Wynne G Oldman wrote:Usual poor quality right wing American Christian propaganda masquerading as news.
All the way from Belgium, a place with no experience in the matter! (Now where did I put that sarcasm font?)

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 3:06 pm
by hundert
big deal, they'll just change commandos from "For your next competition shot, Load! Start!" to "Allahu Akbar!"
Expect news disciplines like "50 meters AK47 spray and pray", "Running Goats" and "500 meters mortar precision"

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 5:07 pm
by Wynne G Oldman
nglitz wrote:
Wynne G Oldman wrote:Usual poor quality right wing American Christian propaganda masquerading as news.
Your bigotry is showing.
My bigotry? What could be more bigoted that this piece of fiction that you probably consider to be the truth?

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 5:19 pm
by Wynne G Oldman
I'm guessing that most of you guys in the USA see this tripe as news, and take it as gospel. Britain is nothing like that. We have many ethnic minorities, and they don't always get along together, but that "news" clip was like the sort of propaganda you saw in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Far from the truth. Ask yourselves why you are being fed this nonsense, and who gains by feeding you this crap. Then try and find a more reliable news source. ;)

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 5:28 pm
by TomAmlie
Wynne G Oldman wrote:I'm guessing that most of you guys in the USA see this tripe as news, and take it as gospel. Britain is nothing like that. We have many ethnic minorities, and they don't always get along together, but that "news" clip was like the sort of propaganda you saw in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Far from the truth. Ask yourselves why you are being fed this nonsense, and who gains by feeding you this crap. Then try and find a more reliable news source. ;)
OK, I invested the 7+ minutes in watching this. With your reaction I have to assume that its absolutely rife with lies. Which statements are so grossly inaccurate?

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:49 pm
by Shooter
Guess who was just elected mayor of London? A Muslim. Watch out. Don

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:54 am
by David Levene
Shooter wrote:Guess who was just elected mayor of London? A Muslim. Watch out. Don
Yes, I was extremely sad that Sadiq Khan was elected Mayor.

Not because he's a Muslim; because he's a member of the Labour party. :-(

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 4:06 am
by Wynne G Oldman
TomAmlie wrote:
Wynne G Oldman wrote:I'm guessing that most of you guys in the USA see this tripe as news, and take it as gospel. Britain is nothing like that. We have many ethnic minorities, and they don't always get along together, but that "news" clip was like the sort of propaganda you saw in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Far from the truth. Ask yourselves why you are being fed this nonsense, and who gains by feeding you this crap. Then try and find a more reliable news source. ;)
OK, I invested the 7+ minutes in watching this. With your reaction I have to assume that its absolutely rife with lies. Which statements are so grossly inaccurate?
You'll have do do your own research, I don't have the time or inclination to do it for you. It's a beautiful sunny day outside, and I'm not going to waste it.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 4:09 am
by Wynne G Oldman
Shooter wrote:Guess who was just elected mayor of London? A Muslim. Watch out. Don
And what is wrong with that? The majority of the UK citizens are not religious, and tend to elect politicians on their policies, not their religious views.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:15 am
by j-team
Wynne G Oldman wrote:You'll have do do your own research, I don't have the time or inclination to do it for you. It's a beautiful sunny day outside, and I'm not going to waste it.
Pick a fight, then run away?

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:10 am
by william
All this mini- tempest in a teapot from a video of that CRACKPOT Pat Robertson. Really!?!

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:11 am
by TomAmlie
Wynne G Oldman wrote:
TomAmlie wrote:
Wynne G Oldman wrote:I'm guessing that most of you guys in the USA see this tripe as news, and take it as gospel. Britain is nothing like that. We have many ethnic minorities, and they don't always get along together, but that "news" clip was like the sort of propaganda you saw in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Far from the truth. Ask yourselves why you are being fed this nonsense, and who gains by feeding you this crap. Then try and find a more reliable news source. ;)
OK, I invested the 7+ minutes in watching this. With your reaction I have to assume that its absolutely rife with lies. Which statements are so grossly inaccurate?
You'll have do do your own research, I don't have the time or inclination to do it for you. It's a beautiful sunny day outside, and I'm not going to waste it.
Really? With your rather vehement denunciation of it I would assume that you could rattle off the slanders and lies without effort. Saying that it would involve "research" on your part calls into question whether you actually have any specific objections to the accuracy of the statements, or whether you simply dislike what is being said.

If you want to make the case that the video is simply propaganda, it would be nice to have something more than "proof by assertion".

Sort of reminds me of the old "I'd like an argument, please" sketch from Monty Python; contradiction and denunciation, but no substance.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 10:37 am
by Wynne G Oldman
The truth is out there, if you can be bothered to find it. One reason that I took up target shooting was to get me out of the house and waste less time on the internet arguing with strangers. I usually don't bother to comment on political stuff, but after seeing that clip posted on here, I just couldn't let it slide. I stand by my original statement.

Re: USA Beware?

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:09 pm
by shaky hands
Wynne G Oldman wrote:One reason that I took up target shooting was to get me out of the house and waste less time on the internet arguing with strangers.
But if the number of your posts in this thread is of any indication, old habits die hard.