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Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:12 pm
by Ray Dash
I recently picked up a SSP for shooting in our bullseye league and have a concern about not having a last round bolt hold open and possibly dry firing during a match. I completely understand why the pistol doesn't have the feature but wonder if anything is made to make it hold open? Do SSP owners just make sure they count all their shots in order to not accidentally dry fire the pistol or is dry firing not that big of an issue? I try to avoid dry firing all my 22 pistols whenever possible.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:45 pm
by Lablover
I have one as well and just count. I also have a marvel conversion that doesn’t lock open...i count. Sort of takes my mind off what I’m doing. I’ve dry fired it by accident a few times and noticed no issues....yet

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:26 am
by Ray Dash
I see that they sell 6 round mags for the SSP. I think that may be the way to go, I will just load a dummy round in the final spot just in case I accidentally dry fire. I really can't think of any other reason they would sell a 6 round mag?

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:04 pm
by -TT-
6 round mags are quite common in European competition pistols. I believe there are some disciplines that require them (mainly Scandinavian?)

IIRC, there is a special magazine available from Walther with a hold-open lug, but it's very expensive and therefore hard to even find.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:14 pm
by Ray Dash
I thought I read that they had a hold open mag but i cant find them anywhere.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:02 pm
by -TT-
I'll ask my friend who shoots one and has the hold-open. Might take a few days, maybe someone will have the answer before.

I wouldn't ignore the gun just because of the non-hold-open. My Benelli doesn't have it, and I've learned to shoot it ok anyway. :)

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:07 pm
by Ray Dash
-TT- wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:02 pm I'll ask my friend who shoots one and has the hold-open. Might take a few days, maybe someone will have the answer before.

I wouldn't ignore the gun just because of the non-hold-open. My Benelli doesn't have it, and I've learned to shoot it ok anyway. :)
Thanks for the help. I am sure a few dry fires here and there wont kill the pistol.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:05 pm
by Lablover
-TT- wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:02 pm I'll ask my friend who shoots one and has the hold-open. Might take a few days, maybe someone will have the answer before.

I wouldn't ignore the gun just because of the non-hold-open. My Benelli doesn't have it, and I've learned to shoot it ok anyway. :)
Look forward to this. Could be a plus!

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:39 pm
by -TT-
Here is what my friend had to say
they sell 2 buttons for the magazines. By default, they come with the one that closes the slide after mag is empty. Factory says competition shooters prefer. You can buy the alternate size that keeps the slide back after the last round.

I have replaced all mine. When I ordered 2 new mags, I specified the alternative size.

Contact Earl at

http://www.carlwalther.com/

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:55 pm
by Ray Dash
I will contact earl and see if he has any. Thanks for the info.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm
by VonKasta
Ray Dash wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:26 am I see that they sell 6 round mags for the SSP. I think that may be the way to go, I will just load a dummy round in the final spot just in case I accidentally dry fire. I really can't think of any other reason they would sell a 6 round mag?
In my avatar im shooting a dicipline that requires you to load six rounds.
Its a kind of semi-dynamic competition where you as a shooter are static but targets can be dynamic.
Heres a clip:

https://youtu.be/CZdvPKki_w4

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:30 pm
by Ray Dash
VonKasta wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm
Ray Dash wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:26 am I see that they sell 6 round mags for the SSP. I think that may be the way to go, I will just load a dummy round in the final spot just in case I accidentally dry fire. I really can't think of any other reason they would sell a 6 round mag?
In my avatar im shooting a dicipline that requires you to load six rounds.
Its a kind of semi-dynamic competition where you as a shooter are static but targets can be dynamic.
Heres a clip:

https://youtu.be/CZdvPKki_w4
Thanks for the info, finally an answer as to why they sell the 6 round magazines.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:21 am
by -TT-
VonKasta wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm In my avatar im shooting a dicipline that requires you to load six rounds.
Its a kind of semi-dynamic competition where you as a shooter are static but targets can be dynamic.
Heres a clip:

https://youtu.be/CZdvPKki_w4
That's wild! I've heard of this but never seen it done. Is it a regional thing, in Sweden?

So, each shooter fires on a designated target in the lines of five? In the video, the shooter was firing on #3 each time? It looks like quite the challenge to keep track of shot counts, in addition to which target and which set of five!

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:27 am
by VonKasta
-TT- wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:21 am
VonKasta wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm In my avatar im shooting a dicipline that requires you to load six rounds.
Its a kind of semi-dynamic competition where you as a shooter are static but targets can be dynamic.
Heres a clip:

https://youtu.be/CZdvPKki_w4
That's wild! I've heard of this but never seen it done. Is it a regional thing, in Sweden?

So, each shooter fires on a designated target in the lines of five? In the video, the shooter was firing on #3 each time? It looks like quite the challenge to keep track of shot counts, in addition to which target and which set of five!
Yes, Sweden, Norway, Finland and maybe a few more places.

You are correct, you walk along a trail in groups of five or six people and along the path there are firing stations built for the day. The note shown before entering the station gives you information about shooting time and how the targets are set up, if you may use a double grip or single and so on.
There is a couple different ways to calculate result that also comes to play when deciding on your firing plan.
You then line up in your designated spot and make sure not to fire at your competitors targets. Every station has a shooting general that gives commands on pre set time marks (load - everybody ready - ten seconds to fire - stand by - fire - ceasefire -secure weapons).
As you may have guessed it was originally military training but has evolved into a popular form of competition.
It is a nice break from regular bulls eye shooting and takes time to master.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:13 am
by Ray Dash
I contacted Earl and it appears there are no buttons for last round hold open for the SSP, only the GSP models.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by -TT-
Nuts, I thought my friend had the SSP, my bad! Well, if Earl can't help, I guess it can't be done.

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:38 pm
by Ray Dash
-TT- wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:29 pm Nuts, I thought my friend had the SSP, my bad! Well, if Earl can't help, I guess it can't be done.
Well it was worth a try. Now I am going to have to take my shoes and socks off to count to 5 each round ;)

Re: Walther SSP for bullseye

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:51 pm
by Lablover
Well back to counting