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Difference Between 1914 and 1907 in 1914 stock

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:46 am
by Andre
I own a 2012 Anschutz 1907 in a 1914 stock, and I refer it as just a 1914. Is there a difference between a 1907 in a 1914 stock and a pain 1914?

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:44 pm
by Shifty
There isn't as such a "1914" rifle - The complete kits you buy (barreled action and stock, as you have) are sold as the 1914 but always consist of the 1907 action in the 1914 stock.
So whilst there is a 1907 rifle (1907 action and 1907 stock) there isn't a complete 1914 rifle.

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:14 pm
by justadude
Andre,

What Shifty is saying is pretty much correct but might be a little too condensed to be clear.

All of the current 19xx rifles are based on the Anschutz Match 54 action. Designed back in 1954. Rifles from that era are often called simply, Match 54.

In the late 1960s distinct model numbers came to identify the rifles. 1407, 1408 were "standard" rifles, 1411 a prone rifle and 1413 the top end "free" rifle. There is a direct lineage from the 14xx rifles of then to the 19xx rifles of today. While all are based on the Match 54 action the 1907 uses a barrel that is about 1/10 or so of an inch less in diameter than the current 1913.

There was time that Anschutz would stamp the specific model number for the stock the barreled action was going into onto the barrel. They quit doing that a long time ago, now days all the small diameter barrels get stamped 1907 and the large diameter barrels 1913 as those are the two dominant models.

While there are a few other differences, a 1914 stock is more or less a 7/8th scale 1913 stock, not exactly, but approximately. The idea is also it is to be a little lighter than a 1913 so Anschutz builds the 1914 with the smaller diameter 1907 barrel. Hence, while you can order a 1914, and you will get a box that says 1914 on it, the barrel comes originally from the 1907 line and has 1907 stamped on it.

A little smaller and lighter, to some extent the 1914 would be considered a ladies rifle. Putting gender aside, at 50 plus years of age with arthritis in my hand and wrist I have built a 1914 from an old 1407 I had and have a wonderful rifle that is not so heavy I cannot stand to shoot it for more than 20 shots.

Cheers,
'Dude

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:31 pm
by Andre
justadude wrote:Andre,

What Shifty is saying is pretty much correct but might be a little too condensed to be clear.

All of the current 19xx rifles are based on the Anschutz Match 54 action. Designed back in 1954. Rifles from that era are often called simply, Match 54.

In the late 1960s distinct model numbers came to identify the rifles. 1407, 1408 were "standard" rifles, 1411 a prone rifle and 1413 the top end "free" rifle. There is a direct lineage from the 14xx rifles of then to the 19xx rifles of today. While all are based on the Match 54 action the 1907 uses a barrel that is about 1/10 or so of an inch less in diameter than the current 1913.

There was time that Anschutz would stamp the specific model number for the stock the barreled action was going into onto the barrel. They quit doing that a long time ago, now days all the small diameter barrels get stamped 1907 and the large diameter barrels 1913 as those are the two dominant models.

While there are a few other differences, a 1914 stock is more or less a 7/8th scale 1913 stock, not exactly, but approximately. The idea is also it is to be a little lighter than a 1913 so Anschutz builds the 1914 with the smaller diameter 1907 barrel. Hence, while you can order a 1914, and you will get a box that says 1914 on it, the barrel comes originally from the 1907 line and has 1907 stamped on it.

A little smaller and lighter, to some extent the 1914 would be considered a ladies rifle. Putting gender aside, at 50 plus years of age with arthritis in my hand and wrist I have built a 1914 from an old 1407 I had and have a wonderful rifle that is not so heavy I cannot stand to shoot it for more than 20 shots.

Cheers,
'Dude
Thanks for the clarification!
Even though the stock is smaller than the 1913, I am only 14 and it fits me well. By the time it gets a little too light it will probably need a new barrel and I would just get a heavier one, and if I outgrow the stock I'm sure I can find another one and bed it for the old action.

I have a friend who shoots (I believe) a 1913 super match (wood stock). It seems the same size, but it's LH and I haven't looked at it close enough to tell though.

Thanks again!

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:16 am
by Tim S
Andre,

the difference between a 1913 and a 1914 is quite slight, as the action, sights are the same size, not to mention the depth of the fore-end. The grip is a tad smaller, and the butt is slightly shorter.

Working out exactly what the model number is for a given Anschutz can be tricky. As dude mentioned most Anschutz rifles are built around the Match 54 action (the exceptions are the Match 64 1402/1403/1803/1903, and the 20xx rifles); as Anschutz haven't really changed the Match 54 receiver in sixty years. most Match 54 action/barrel and stocks are interchangeable. "Marriages" of old barrels and new stocks, and vice versa, are common as shooters upgrade their kit around a favourite part.