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Slo cat
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World Masters Games Firearms Permit

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Today I received my NSW Commisioners's Permit, allowing me to possess and shoot my listed firearms at the WMG. I also received a notice saying that individual B709 Customs Importation certificates will not be issued, but a master B709 certificate will be issued to the Sydney WMG organising Committee.

Here is a What If question. What can one do if at the last minute one of my firearms identified on the permit becomes disabled and I need to bring in a replacement pistol? If this is not manageable, could I legally borrow a pistol from another shooter in Australia and use it?

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Post by Martin H »

The B709 is for importing your firearm into NSW (in either disabled or functional form). However you will be still licenced in NSW for the duration of the World Masters games. I just can't remember if there is mention of your firearm type, make model and serial number on the NSW Vistors licence. However I am sure you now have a Temporary Vistors permit which permits you to use firearms in NSW.

As long as you obey the law regarding storage of the borrowed firearm etc then I can't see why you can not borrow a firearm.

I hope some Australian's chime in here to help out. You could also e-mail the organisers or check the website as I remember seeing something about putting your name down so you could hook up with other people and borrow thier firearm for different events.

At worst you could contact the NSW Police Permits section to check, they always seem helpful.
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Martin
PS See you there, I am shooting 50m rifle.
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As far as I know, you will be able to borrow a firearm to shoot your match.
The Permit gives you permission to use a handgun, and compete at the Games.

Think positively - your gear will work well over here, and Nothing is going to go wrong!!

It is good to know everything is in order. Relax and think about a good trip, and a fun shoot.
I look forward to meeting you in Sydney next month.

I think your wife is going sightseeing with my wife during the week. She is looking forward to it, too!!

Regards, Alex L.
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Don't forget to account for the "Reverse Coriolis Effect" of hte southern hemisphere!

Good luck to all competitors . . . yeah, I'm jealous that I'm not going!
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Steve Swartz as Guest wrote:Don't forget to account for the "Reverse Coriolis Effect" of hte southern hemisphere!

Good luck to all competitors . . . yeah, I'm jealous that I'm not going!
Actually Steve, the best way to counter "Reverse Coriolis Effect" is to make sure you use a barrel with the opposite twist.
Note.... it can also be achieved by shooting standing upside down (standing on your head).
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Crikey! This is getting confusing. I also do most of my training at 6,000' above sea level (Denver = Mile High City). How much sight correction do I need for Sydney (about 30' elevation)???

On a more serious note, does anyone know if we are squaded for the training day, or are the ranges open on a first come, first served basis? More importantly, is there a pub near the SISC that is customarily used by shooters to relax and socialize? Has anyone heard about when and where equipment check will be? I don't see this on the schedule.

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David M wrote:...Actually Steve, the best way to counter "Reverse Coriolis Effect" is to make sure you use a barrel with the opposite twist.
Note.... it can also be achieved by shooting standing upside down (standing on your head).
David is, of course, being mischievious - we do not allow shooters to stand on their head. These days, Rules 7.5.1.2.1 and 8.6.1.1 are vigourously enforced at competitions in Australia and the upside-down position is rarely ecountered other than in New Zealand.
But, be aware that you will have to 'change eyes' as in the Southern Hemisphere your dominant eye will be the other way (L > R or R > L, as applicable for you)

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Slo cat wrote:...On a more serious note, does anyone know if we are squaded for the training day, or are the ranges open on a first come, first served basis?
- For 'open' training day, everyone will get a session, but not squadded
- For PET, it will be squadded
Slo cat wrote:...More importantly, is there a pub near the SISC that is customarily used by shooters to relax and socialize?
- not really (and NSW has .05 alcohol limit for drivers). Most nights we socialise once back to the accommodation.
Slo cat wrote:... Has anyone heard about when and where equipment check will be? I don't see this on the schedule. Best Regards, Slo cat

EC available from the arrival day

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Spencer wrote: But, be aware that you will have to 'change eyes' as in the Southern Hemisphere your dominant eye will be the other way (L > R or R > L, as applicable for you)
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I am relieved to see this, and it is not a problem. I have been training with my left (non-dominate) eye. Prior to my cataract surgery on my right eye, I used my left eye for about 1.5 years (and established a new USA Shooting senior S3 record in Free Pistol)! Now if you make me shoot left handed, THAT will be a problem, as none of my grips will fit.

Spencer, thank you for the answers to my questions. Alex, Mrs. Slo cat is eagerly looking forward to touring with Liz. David M., you shouldn't be trying to play with my mind, you are not even in my age class (thanks to heavenly intervention and just plain good luck!).

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OS shooters will be happy to know that we have moved almost all the drop bears (http://www.geocities.com/muirnin/db.htm) from the venue.
The few remaining should cause no problems as the sub-species found in the SISC area will normally only attack when in packs.

No drop bears were harmed in the re-location and they will be returned to their native habitat within a week of the Masters being completed.

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Spencer wrote:OS shooters will be happy to know that we have moved almost all the drop bears from the venue.
The few remaining should cause no problems as the sub-species found in the SISC area will normally only attack when in packs.
Spencer
Do you mean this cute little bugger?
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Can one obtain one of these as a pet? Mrs. Slo cat loves animals and would be happy to take care of one. Do they have a fondness for Aussie beer, Tooheys Extra Dry perhaps?

I have a playmate for one if I can bring it home with me. Here is a photo I took of a North American variety on my front porch just a few days ago:

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