I mean no disrespect when I say that your mind seems to be made up and you just want us to agree that the Pardini is what you NEED.
You do not seem to be shooting NRA three gun competition, which is what the "Bullseye" board is for, and you will not out outshoot a Ruger or Model 41, dare I say, EVER. Especially at 50 ft.
My mind is not at all made up about a Pardini but I am getting steered towards it from what I am reading. This pistol is neither what I want or what I need. Looking for a first .22 LR caliber pistol is a hit-and-miss affair so open to suggestions and that's why I want people's experiences with it so that I can make a better decision. I would love to hear negative feedback most of all about this gun because then my decision would be made so much easier. Reading a lot of research and hearing dozens of "this is a good gun" posts is fairly useless until you come across the gems where people open up with their negative feedback.
I already tried the Ruger Mk II and I am not a fan of it, I tried the Buck Mark only to find out that I do not like the trigger on it and even if I did the work myself to do the Heggins Trigger Job (spring flip) and polish the sear/hammer engagement the gun would still not perform up to par. I also don't see many people sporting the Buck Marks for competitions. I was dead set on a Buck Mark as a started pistol but after more research and speaking to people who have had experience with them my mind was changed and I decided against it. The same can happen with the Pardini if I hear enough about it.
I tried a famous S&W Model 41 a few times and last weekend when tried it at the range I liked it, except that it had a FTF twice including a stove-pipe with ammo that the gun liked. Many people feel that the S&W Model 41 will a wonderful pistol as long as you take the time to find the ammo that it likes. However there is a lot of nationalistic chest beating when I mention anything of European make when it comes to bullseye pistol equipment and people just go crazy that I don't just hand my money over to S&W for this gun right now. I even had a moderator remove posts by a poster in the previous thread who was championing his S&W Model 41 as the ultimate gun in the world ignoring the topic of that thread. I don't like this attitude of users who champion the M41.
Everyone that I talk to at my range urges me to get the S&W Model 41 and forget about my research. I am not easily pushed towards a direction that is why I'm doing this research. Additionally the two S&W Model 41s that I tried, one's slide cracked after normal and ordinary usage by a friend at the range who takes really good care of his guns and babies them. The other M41 has a very noticeable skew in the slide, barrel, and frame positioning putting some doubt about this pistol. Various people have posted pictures of the groups they shoot with various ammo and the M41 is mostly all over the place except for one type of ammo that the user finds that actually works reliably and accurately. All this information might be just the worst-of-the-worst experiences that are being posted but the amount of it that I've read isn't painting a rosy picture for me here.
I understand that many bullseye championship shooters do phenomenally well with the Ruger or S&W Model 41 and that these guns will outperform me but while this might be so I am still looking for an alternatives such as the Pardini I'm asking about in this thread.
As for posting the information on the guns that I own it was not for show but as a response to Cecil since he seemed to be under the impression that I'm buying pistols for their name value alone and not the qualities of the firearms. The 1911 and the .22 LR rifle were purchased after a lot of research, the same type that I'm doing here, and after I found what people recommended and after I avoided the things that people mentioned they had problems with. Les Baer came up on top as the most affordable custom pistol maker for 1911 frames for my needs at the time, local range competition. I am very happy with this gun and I enjoy it very much as I mentioned. I'm sure that others who have various other Colts, Sprinfields, Willsons, STI's, Night Hawks like theirs also.
Volquartsen came up after I did my research for a very accurate .22 LR caliber rifle that was semi-automatic
, one reason why I didn't choose a Anschultz style rifle that might be more accurate.
So anyway, if you want the Pardini, get a Pardini.
You got the quote wrong or added your words at the end as I could not find out anywhere mentioned value, but did say get the best you could afford.
I did not mention how to find out what was best for you and took the time in my response to clarify that each shooter will probably need to actually shoot a model of any considered gun to determine balance, grip, recoil characteristics, trigger position, length, sight set up, etc. For example, I never could get used to the nose heavy feel of a Hammerli 208 with a scope mount, although I shoot some pretty good scores with it.
There are not that many Pardini guns on the line at Canton and Perry. Although Randy Pafford and a few others have shot them quite well.
Sorry you didn't need the comment about trying out guns to see what actually works for you.
I hope the Pardini works well for you.
I don't want a Pardini, I want information from people who have experiences with the pistol and who can tell me if their experience was good and they recommend it to me or to stay away from it like the plague because of one reason or another. I appreciate honest negative feedback more than generic positive posts.
The quote I was paraphrasing. I'm sure that it has been mentioned by many people throughout the years but it's one of those ideas that stuck in my head about buying the best gun you can afford. It makes sense for me even while I'm going for the paradoxical idea of buying an expensive gun to save money on shooting .22 LR caliber.
The relative unpopularity of the Pardini is not so important to me because I'm not trying to follow a trend here, since if I was I would have not bothered and just bought a M41 a week ago and called it quits. I didn't so I'm here now still weighing my options.
Ah see! That comment you made about the Hammerli 208s is quite valuable to me. That one single line is what I look for when I read people's posts and threads and I remember these honest and negative little things that they write down and note. You are not the first person to mention the little issue on the Hammerli 208s balance. I take all the information I read and aggregate together, after enough information certain things begin to bubble up to the top and I can form an opinion based on people's comments and experiences and in this case the Hammerli 208s balance issue comes to the top. That is what I look for.
I really have no choice about being able to try guns and then deciding on what I like because where I shoot the choices are quite limited and I've already tried almost all the guns that I could. I have to take a shot in the dark here but at least I'm trying to do my research so I know what to expect because I dive in head first.
I had the same dilemma when I was choosing the scope for the .22 LR rifle and I ended up purchasing a scope that I did not have a chance of looking through because the ones that I did look through did not satisfy me. In the scope turned out exactly as expected and just like I wanted because the research told me what to expect.
So I'm still reading and doing research about the Pardini SP and at the same time I'm trying to decide if this will be my first pistol.
I won't really know if this is the pistol that has the right grip, balance, trigger, sights, and other aspects that are good for me but that is something that I will only be able to tell after a lot of time behind the trigger of this gun. I'm just hoping to jump ahead of the curve and start with a gun on which I can grow and learn without dealing with upgrading and replacement.
Whether that gun turns out to be the Pardini SP or the highly recommended S&W Model 41, I can't tell at this point.