TargetTalk

[JamesH]

Area aim somewhere in the white, say the middle of my foresight in the middle of the white.

If you're looking at the top edge of the foresight and the bottom edge of the black then you're not really looking at the foresight.

[luftskytter]

As mentioned before, I'm in the process of reestablishing sub six area aim. Seems "half bull" is to low; I lose "contact" between sights and bull, and find it hard to establish a stable aiming picture.
Seems to be the cause of vertical spread. So after tonights match I adjusted my sights and tried to aim higher. Got a reasonably good group after some test shots at a target, but it turned out to be centered below target centre ;-)

Which indicates that my low sub six was better established in my subconscious than I believed. It's hard to fool the "system"!
I'll just keep on testing to let my mind/body tell me where it should be.

[jackh]

I think if you are somehow "measuring" the white between the bull and the sight, you are not really truely looking at the front sight.

[dschaller]

I recomend to my new shooters that they start by using a spacing below the black that is equal to the amount of white on each side of the front sight. This is easy for them to understand, and in the beginning, gives them a reference to use that is "symmetric" so the eye naturally accepts it. I also use rear sights that are wide enough that there is a good amount of white on each side. To be honest, I have not ever tried to quantify how far that is relative to the width of the black. I also personally tend to use a slightly deeper sub-six hold, somewhere between there and less than 1/2 of the bull.

[deadeyedick]

but seeing the sights move around against the black tends to make me less confident in my hold. If all I see it white behind them, my eye is not drawn to the target and stays on the front sight where it belongs.

This is another reason to use area aim, as having sights aligned on such a small area as the centre of the black promotes conciously pulling on the trigger as our natural movement passes over the centre, resulting in the " I'll get it the next time my sights pass over the ten " mentality, conciously tugging on the trigger...and all of us know the ending to that story.

[luftskytter]

In the grip pressure thread we got an "unofficialentry" for the poll:

http://www.pilkguns.com/intyw.shtml

Yifu Wang says: "the trhee or four ring".

Gives me peace of mind: you can aim very low and far away from the "reference" at the bottom of the black and still shoot world champion scores under world champion competitive pressure. So I'll let my body and mind find their own way and trust that precision will come, hopefully before old age overtakes me........

[deragoku]

Now I know that is my goal as long as I adjust my scores improved 10 points or more in every game for the dead center.

[Beevo]

[conradin]

I have yet to finish adjusting my Steyr after three months, so my aiming frequently changes. The latest changes saw me double my scoring average and more. While I admit that I am new to the sport and is a poor shooter, it also reflects how unsuitable the set up I had with my previous pistol which is a Walther. I also find out that no matter how I adjust the Walther, it simply does not fit my style.
I expect to shoot poorly again as I continue to adjust the sights, blades, rear sight width, radius, cant and other stuff such as trigger weight distribution. I will not be surprised that I will totally miss the target while only standing 10 ft in front of it and aiming dead center. Been there done that.
Until the final piece of accessory arrives, I will have no clue. Sight radius will change, front blade may change, rear sights width may change; the only thing that I am very happy about and will keep is the trigger weight and works perfectly for me (460/40). I will be able to answer this question when the adjustment is finished. I am hoping that my final aim will be between the bottom of the 6 and the dead center. But I think it really does not matter as long as you find a set up that suit your style.

[Richard H]

[deadeyedick]

[Spencer]